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June 5, 2024

Laying the Foundation for Knoxville's Growth with John Ewart

In this episode, we meet John Ewart, the dynamic leader of the Knoxville Chapter of the Associated General Contractors. John shares his inspiring journey from his early days in the Navy to playing football at the University of Tennessee and how these...

In this episode, we meet John Ewart, the dynamic leader of the Knoxville Chapter of the Associated General Contractors. John shares his inspiring journey from his early days in the Navy to playing football at the University of Tennessee and how these experiences led him to a significant role in shaping Knoxville's construction scene. He discusses the importance of skilled trades like electric work and carpentry, the impact of the Women in Construction initiative, and how he is helping to grow the next generation of leaders in the construction industry. Tune in to discover how John's leadership is building a stronger community in Knoxville.

Show Highlights:

(00:00) Introduction.

(01:00) John recounts his early experiences.

(02:31) Explanation of what AGC stands for and its significance in the construction industry.

(03:24) Details on the membership composition of AGC and its community impact.

(05:33) The role of AGC in workforce development, focusing on the Apprenticeship Program.

(06:04) Explanation of what a journeyman is and the value of the apprenticeship.

(07:09) Strategies to combat the workforce shortage in skilled trades.

(09:18) Insights into the Women in Construction initiative and its goals.

(11:00) Discussion on large-scale projects and the importance of blueprint skills in construction.

(13:36) The pivotal role of mentorship and networking in professional growth.

(16:00) The importance of community involvement and service in John's career.

(18:45) How AGC connects with legislation and the broader construction industry at the national level.

(20:43) The impact of social media and networking on professional relationships.

(22:35) Closing thoughts on leadership, community impact, and the future of Knoxville's growth.

 

Links Referenced:

Connect with John on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/john.ewart.92/

Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-ewart-79645578/

The Associated General Contractors Of Tennessee: https://www.tnagc.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1tYTy1NQthNQ4nuE9ZdoJ9Gx5wYMK66xFKV5f2DHMR6jsdLmG1pBXSEqM_aem_AasVxJi0pfAijcboVz04oicdRqrQ2YjpNRhnK1Ni6J0d2U4s8D9xvbaFrQqBtocM2yUk3KDdvGQcb-M-_uZqzpnv 

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Transcript
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Julia: Hey everybody, welcome to

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another episode of Connect the Knox.

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I'm Julia Hurley, your host,

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connecting Knoxville to the nation.

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Today's guest is John Ewert.

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He is the Knoxville Chapter President

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in all things, honestly, he could

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probably run the whole country if

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we would just let him do it, of AGC,

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Knoxville Chapter, and one of the

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best volunteers you will ever meet.

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It is very important that everybody

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moving here gets to know John, because

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he houses one of the most prolific

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groups of people you will ever meet.

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Please introduce yourself to the nation

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and start from the beginning, how you

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ended up here in Knoxville and how you

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got to AGC and then tell us what it is.

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John Ewart: Well, thank

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you so much for having me.

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I truly do appreciate it.

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My stories.

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Pretty simple, uh, come from a small

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town, Fayetteville, Tennessee, uh, 1991,

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uh, United States goes into war with the

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Persian Gulf area, enlisted in the United

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States Navy, had a four year career in

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the Navy, that was absolutely incredible,

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got a chance to be stationed in Pearl

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Harbor, Hawaii, got a chance to go to

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the Persian Gulf, Somalia, Cairo, Egypt,

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just had an amazing four year career.

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During that time, I decided I

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wanted to go play football at the

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University of Tennessee as a walk on.

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Got over to UT in 96, graduated in 99.

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And what an incredible two year

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journey from 1997 and 1998.

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Playing on the, uh, 97 SEC

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Championship team with Peyton Manning.

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Playing on the 1998 National

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Championship team with a host

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of Vols, Al Wilson, Jamal Lewis.

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And, uh, uh, just a host of others.

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From there, uh, started

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my business career.

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Got a chance to work four years

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at Gettysview Country Club.

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That was absolutely incredible.

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Incredible opportunity to network,

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meet a lot of people moving to the

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Knoxville area during that time.

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From there, I went to St.

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Mary's Healthcare.

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Got a chance to run a health and fitness

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center, uh, off the Emory Road exit.

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I got a chance to run a daycare,

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do director of marketing and, uh,

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facilities manager, uh, COO for

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the hospital after 13 years there.

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Uh, a GC hired me six years

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ago to run this market.

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Running the construction community

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is absolutely incredible.

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There's so many amazing people

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in Knoxville to connect with.

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Julia: So what does a GC stand for, john?

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John Ewart: Associated

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General contractors.

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So, we are a nationwide organization.

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The headquarters of AGC is on Capitol

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Hill, literally on Capitol Hill.

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They, of course, want favorable

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outcomes in legislation, so construction

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continue to happen and grow.

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Obviously, the infrastructure of

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America as a whole is very old.

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Between roads and bridges and

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dams and everything in between.

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And then, of course, in the Knoxville

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market, we really are looking at

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your vertical GCE individuals.

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The people that are building the

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large buildings, Smith Wesson, Neyland

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Stadium, College of Nursing on campus.

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So that's really who we serve

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here in the Knoxville market.

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Julia: So it's a pretty

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big market to think about.

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Uh, anybody that can get a collegiate

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contract usually has a national

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contract for large construction.

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It's not something that's

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really easy to understand.

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It's not something

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that's easy to get into.

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It takes years to develop the

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relationships to pull contracts like that.

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You need subcontractors, you need all

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kinds of different vendors, and you

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manage relationships with all of those.

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Uh, what does that membership look like?

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What is it made up of?

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John Ewart: So right now we have roughly

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200 members here in the Knoxville Market.

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Everything from the largest GCs,

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you've got subcontractors, you've got

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suppliers, you have service providers.

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And the way I look at it, it is,

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what does our community look like?

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And we want to be a makeup of all

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of those levels in our community.

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So a lot of people look at this and just

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say, well, you're just construction.

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We are not just construction.

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You have financial investors here,

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you've got real estate, You have

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Insurance, but then you have all the

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large subs, you've got all the large

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GCs, but ultimately the Knoxville

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market is built around a community.

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And I think that's where we have

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had so many levels of success here,

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is because we are community driven,

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uh, which includes construction.

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Construction

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Julia: industry as a whole, especially

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in the East Tennessee market right

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now, especially in East Tennessee,

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we, national blew up, right?

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And it's just absolutely, you can't find

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space, yet they continue to find space.

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And they're coming this way, and there's

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more and more opportunity every day.

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But as you said, construction's

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not just put on the hard

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hat and go build something.

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Construction is Supply.

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Construction is employment.

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Construction is management.

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Construction is healthcare.

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Construction is base.

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What?

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There are so many different facets to

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the word construction and especially

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the major amounts of construction

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industries that you were helping manage.

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What converse, what are conversations

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like with all of those people in one room?

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Like what is the benefit here?

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John Ewart: So the biggest thing

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that you look at when we talk about

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construction is you've got two major

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things that you've got obstacles with.

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The first one's going to be

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Employment, um, Workforce Development.

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Second one's going to be Supply Chain.

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So, with AGC, one of the greatest benefits

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that we offer Knox County, not only

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the school system, but the employers,

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is we have an Apprenticeship Program.

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This Apprenticeship Program is

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Electricians, Carpenters, and Masons.

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This year was our largest group of

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students we've had with 270 students

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starting the 2023 school year.

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It's a four year program

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through the Department of Labor.

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After four years in this program,

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you get your journeyman's license

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and workforce development in every

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industry is vital to the growth and

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continuing education, uh, for employers.

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Julia: Now, what's a journeyman?

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John Ewart: A journeyman is, uh, basically

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when you get your real estate license.

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You have to go through class, you've

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got to go through the seminars,

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you've got to go through all the

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process to receive your license.

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Well, a journeyman is a four year degree

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as an electrician or as a carpenter.

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So you go four years to school, you

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do all the testing, you get all the

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apprenticeship hours, which you have

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to have 2, 000 work hours a year,

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so basically a full time employee.

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And after you test out after four

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years, you are, you are a licensed

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electrician or a licensed carpenter

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that can practice throughout the U.

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Julia: I have friends of mine that

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own large scale businesses, like

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the ones that belong to AT& T.

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And we are told constantly that that is

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a dying industry, that there are just not

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enough people that, one, are interested

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in it or understand why it's valuable.

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I do want to go through that long of a

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process to Gain that type of knowledge,

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yet it is one of the most sought after.

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Claymore, why that's relevant and what you

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all are doing to partner with like Key,

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Rhode State, uh, Walter State, and, and

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how you're providing that to industry.

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John Ewart: So from what I understand,

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the latest study that I saw when we had

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an apprenticeship roundtable with Knox

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County is it's about a five to one loss.

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We're losing five people for

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every one entering in, in these,

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uh, journeyman type positions.

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So for us, it comes down to education.

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People just don't realize a starting wage

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for a lot of these 18, 19, 20 year old

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individuals could be 15 plus an hour.

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Now a lot of places are paying 15 plus an

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hour just to, you know, survive business.

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But once you enter as your journeyman

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after four years, you can make 25, 30,

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35 an hour with that four year degree.

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A lot of the college degrees that

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people are receiving right now on

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different campuses can't pay that much.

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I know I didn't make that coming out.

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No, I came out of college

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25 plus years ago.

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But we really want to, through the

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865 Academy here in Knox County,

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with Builders Exchange, with other

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entities, we really want that.

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education piece to say if you're not ready

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for a four year degree at post, post high

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school, if you want a job opportunity

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where you're hired, you're employed,

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and you're still doing education, uh,

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becoming an electrician, carpenter,

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mason is an incredible way to go.

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Of course, my way, as soon as I've left

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high school, I'm straight into boot camp.

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You know, I'm four years military.

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Then I go back to college

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and get my degree.

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I think the value of degrees

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right now with the cost of them,

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you can join the apprenticeship

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program and a four year program.

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I did a study for Knox County

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last week and our average student

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after four years graduating will

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pay less than 1, 500 in tuition.

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that value back to our members.

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Because they employ individuals, they send

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them to our school, but it's also a great

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value for each of those students who isn't

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getting in a lifetime of debt to get a

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four year, you know, journeyman's license.

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Julia: I know that there's

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a show, uh, does something

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called the Man Show every year.

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And the IEBW, am I saying that properly?

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The local IEBW is always there.

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Really and truly, every person walks

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through the door, they're like, Please

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go and get your electrician's license.

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Please, we need more electricians.

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Please help us.

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We need this.

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This is a need that is being talked

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about more and more and more.

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How do you see this program bringing

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these kids into this faster to be able

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to that 5 to 1 ratio is a big loss.

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Like, how are we How can we work as a, as

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a community to bring more of that to you?

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John Ewart: I think with Knox

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County School System starting the

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865 Academy, getting their juniors

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and seniors exposed into different

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trades and different styles of work.

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you know, have grown up and they

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haven't had to work with their hands.

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labor, yet when they get into the, uh,

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workforce, I mean, that's the majority

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of the jobs that's going to be out there.

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you've got to educate them on pay.

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The hourly wage for a journeyman or

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the hourly wage for an apprentice.

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is going to be greater than

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a lot of the other jobs that

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they're going to be seeking.

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training is so important.

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That's why being an apprentice and having

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a mentor and having somebody who is

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guiding you along the way is so important.

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But I just don't think in today's Twitter

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universe, you know, everything is built

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on social media and clicks and likes.

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I think a lot of people just miss it.

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This is a great area to go into

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business And you can start your

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own business after four years.

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It's incredible.

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Julia: AGC, you said there's 200

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members in just the Knoxville chapter?

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John Ewart: Correct.

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Julia: I know that we've met, I've met a

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few, um, the new female CEO, which is huge

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of, and I'm going to mess it up, OYSK3.

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John Ewart: Kara, she's incredible.

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Julia: They're doing the

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blueprints for Neyland Stadium.

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They're a, they're a massive

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blueprint company, right?

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That's, that is a skill that takes

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years of practice to be part, and that's

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just one portion of what it takes to

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put together construction as a, the

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word construction means so much more.

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What are some of the pieces?

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Like, you have the women in construction.

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Tell us about that offshoot

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of the AGC specifically.

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John Ewart: So, I had a conversation with

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my, at that time, 15 year old daughter.

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And she was telling me all of this

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stuff that she is growing up learning,

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saying how women are at a disadvantage

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in the workforce, whether it's through

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pay, whether it's through promotions,

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whether it's through opportunities.

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growing up believing that.

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If it's true or not,

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again, I, I don't know.

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15 believes is she is already

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taking a backseat to a man.

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So two years ago, I created this

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women and constructed show Megan that

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at, you create your own self worth.

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If somebody doesn't offer you what

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you're worth, don't accept the job.

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If you don't like the environment

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of a workplace, create your own.

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Create your own.

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We got capital.

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We can, we can do something.

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You know, again, you gotta be creative

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and you gotta have your own standards.

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So, um, I wanted to show my daughter

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powerful women at any level of

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business, whether you're the admin

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assistant or the CEO president.

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Women create so much value.

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The buying power for women, the

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decision making ability, the

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ability to create companies, and the

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ability to mentor other young women.

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So we created Women in Construction in

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early 2023, and our goal for 2023 was

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to average about 25 people at events.

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2023, we averaged 87 people,

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87 women, at these events.

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So, this year, 2024, every six weeks,

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we are hosting a free Lunch Learn.

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Uh, we've got some incredible

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speakers coming in.

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And, again, it was a way to show my

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daughter, who is now 16, what decision

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making, what leadership, what mentoring,

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but the buying power that women really do.

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Run the world.

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It is true.

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You know, you just have to seek it out.

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And I want, and I wanted

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to show that to people.

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Julia: We all know that real estate

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is location, location, location.

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Our team at Just Homes Group

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Realty Executives has the true

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expertise pairing buyers and sellers

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with the right opportunities.

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Whether you're looking to buy or

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sell a home right here in Knoxville,

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Lenore City, Clinton, or Farragut.

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We have the expertise throughout

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every Knoxville surrounding area.

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Call Just Homes Group

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Realty Executives today.

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We have all girls as well,

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three girls in our home as well.

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And as a female business owner who is

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constantly prejudiced, towing that line

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of, I know what people say and I know

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exactly what you just said is true.

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And both of those things have got to find,

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The middle ground, there's always some,

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you can turn on social media, no matter

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what social media it is, and find 500

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negative things and find the one positive

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thing, you have to find it, you have to

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look for it, you have to want to be part

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of it, you have to create it, and you have

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to work at it, and Reiterating that on a

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consistent basis to our children, because

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that's the next generation of leadership.

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We're, I mean, that's another 20

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years and I'm out of the game, right?

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I'll be, well, I mean, hopefully

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not, but I mean, 20 years,

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technically I should be out of this

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game and those kids are, are it.

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That's the next conversation.

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And if they're already going into

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the conversation saying I can't do

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something, there's a good chance that

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they won't even try something to at

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least show that if you try and make

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this initiative, people will respond.

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You've had eight, seven women per meeting.

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in attendance and you're on waiting

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lists for some of these things.

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John Ewart: Yes, we've got, we've

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got some incredible, we had Karen

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Weakley come out and speak, the head

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coach of the Lady Ball Softball.

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We've got Claudia with Centro

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Hispano coming out to talk about

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the Hispanic speaking community.

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Our next one is Dana Hart, the CEO of

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the Women's Basketball Hall of Fame.

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You know, we just had the WNBA draft

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last night, which was celebrated.

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Uh, the Women's Hall of Fame has

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their induction ceremony next week.

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And then she's coming to talk to our

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women's event, uh, women's group about

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why it's so important to have the

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Women's Hall of Fame here in Knoxville.

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Why is it here?

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Who does it serve?

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The empowerment of women, and our

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women's group was just a perfect

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connector for our next speaker.

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Julia: My doubles tennis

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partner's parents.

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Um, her brother, we were all at their

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beach house for vacation one spring

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break, and her brother had said something.

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He was a, he was a huge baseball player.

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He was being recruited.

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And, uh, he said, well, what if

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something happened to me and all

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I could be was a ditch digger?

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And I remember, I mean,

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it wasn't even a thought.

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It came right out of his mom's mouth.

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And she said, well, you better be the best

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damn ditch digger this world's ever seen.

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Because if you're not going to be the

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best at your position, don't do it at all.

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And that applies to everybody.

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That applies to the person who has

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to order the pencils, because if you

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order the bad pencils, then nobody can

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do the drawings, and then the drawings

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don't get to be where they need to be.

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It doesn't matter what your

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position is, creating your value,

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creating that opportunity for value

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is important, and you're getting

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that in one place for people.

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Tell us about how, what, why

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is that so heavy on your heart?

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Like, what is this, you're very passionate

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about it, you're really bringing it.

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John Ewart: I think, so, Going to St.

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Mary's, which is now, it's

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called Tenova Healthcare, but

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when I started, the Sisters of

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Mercy taught me a couple things.

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I was 32, just taking over the

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Health and Fitness Center, had

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150 employees, had 6, 000 members.

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And, you know, they really preach

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being a servant leader, you know, as

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we are here to serve the community.

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But we're also here for business, and

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one of the greatest business quotes

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that I've heard from the sisters is you

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can't feed the poor if you are the poor.

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And to truly be a servant leader is yes,

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you've got to have business principles

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and business practices, and you do

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have to watch out for your bottom line.

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But at the end of the day, once

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you get your bottom line right,

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it's time to serve your community.

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And, uh, that's really, before

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then I hadn't really been part,

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you know, Gettysburg Country Club.

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I was working with lots of business

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leaders, a lot of decision makers.

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And, you know, we were bringing

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people in and we were networking

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and doing a great job.

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But when I got to St.

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Mary's and working for the Sisters of

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Mercy, it just changed my perspective on

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what, you know, My personal outlook on

519
00:17:55,995 --> 00:17:57,815
life was going to be, and instead of just

520
00:17:57,815 --> 00:18:00,014
chasing revenue, I was chasing quality.

521
00:18:00,315 --> 00:18:01,935
And not just chasing quality,

522
00:18:01,935 --> 00:18:03,705
but trying to serve a community,

523
00:18:04,014 --> 00:18:06,715
and it just continues to

524
00:18:06,715 --> 00:18:08,254
translate into what I do today.

525
00:18:08,415 --> 00:18:09,764
Julia: You're constantly working

526
00:18:09,764 --> 00:18:12,674
on your ability to connect people.

527
00:18:12,675 --> 00:18:15,475
You always make the connection.

528
00:18:16,024 --> 00:18:17,814
And that is something that's super rare

529
00:18:17,814 --> 00:18:19,834
and super relevant because connectors

530
00:18:19,854 --> 00:18:21,675
are few and far between when you really

531
00:18:21,675 --> 00:18:23,375
can just speak with someone and get

532
00:18:23,375 --> 00:18:24,995
their vibe and be like, I know somebody

533
00:18:24,995 --> 00:18:27,175
you need to know and know who they are.

534
00:18:27,195 --> 00:18:28,094
They'll take your call.

535
00:18:28,094 --> 00:18:29,304
You've built that relationship.

536
00:18:29,644 --> 00:18:31,374
You have that ability and you

537
00:18:31,374 --> 00:18:34,054
are using that to empower all the

538
00:18:34,054 --> 00:18:36,225
people in the Knoxville market.

539
00:18:36,225 --> 00:18:37,484
Tell us about.

540
00:18:37,865 --> 00:18:39,575
What you're doing, maybe like in D.

541
00:18:39,585 --> 00:18:39,975
C.

542
00:18:39,985 --> 00:18:41,205
or Nashville, because you

543
00:18:41,205 --> 00:18:42,705
have to be part of all of it.

544
00:18:42,705 --> 00:18:43,385
You're national.

545
00:18:43,385 --> 00:18:44,695
You're just, you're a part of that.

546
00:18:45,245 --> 00:18:46,534
John Ewart: Well, with legislation,

547
00:18:46,534 --> 00:18:48,314
I really do sit on the sidelines

548
00:18:48,324 --> 00:18:49,494
for the legislation part.

549
00:18:49,494 --> 00:18:51,535
We've got a CEO out of Nashville.

550
00:18:51,875 --> 00:18:54,385
We go to Nashville once a year at

551
00:18:54,385 --> 00:18:56,364
an event called Day on the Hill, and

552
00:18:56,364 --> 00:18:58,274
we go meet with local legislators.

553
00:18:58,675 --> 00:19:00,495
And that's great to get a chance

554
00:19:00,495 --> 00:19:02,134
to connect with our decision

555
00:19:02,134 --> 00:19:04,415
makers in Nashville, extremely

556
00:19:04,415 --> 00:19:05,605
important in all of that.

557
00:19:05,605 --> 00:19:07,435
But I really do sit on the sidelines

558
00:19:07,485 --> 00:19:09,865
because there's so many varying

559
00:19:09,865 --> 00:19:12,634
opinions on the way the world

560
00:19:12,634 --> 00:19:13,884
should work and the way the U.

561
00:19:13,884 --> 00:19:14,004
S.

562
00:19:14,014 --> 00:19:14,864
should work and the way the

563
00:19:14,865 --> 00:19:16,335
state of Tennessee should work.

564
00:19:16,794 --> 00:19:18,314
It's really hard for me to

565
00:19:18,654 --> 00:19:20,284
be on one side or the other.

566
00:19:20,695 --> 00:19:23,105
So I really just, really do remove

567
00:19:23,135 --> 00:19:25,745
myself from that aspect because

568
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,050
Everybody's passionate about it, and

569
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,370
nobody's opinion is necessarily wrong.

570
00:19:31,380 --> 00:19:32,030
There's just different

571
00:19:32,030 --> 00:19:33,050
ways of getting there.

572
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,909
So, um, in that aspect, now that's

573
00:19:35,910 --> 00:19:37,850
one thing I've done really well since

574
00:19:37,850 --> 00:19:40,060
my time in the military, is when

575
00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:41,600
people say, don't talk politics at

576
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,730
dinner, I don't talk politics ever.

577
00:19:43,910 --> 00:19:44,719
I really don't.

578
00:19:44,770 --> 00:19:47,180
I really just tell people, be passionate

579
00:19:47,180 --> 00:19:49,880
about, I, I, I don't like indifference.

580
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,450
Like, be passionate one way or

581
00:19:51,450 --> 00:19:54,215
the other, whether it Agrees with

582
00:19:54,215 --> 00:19:55,925
the majority or the minority.

583
00:19:56,185 --> 00:19:57,125
It really doesn't matter.

584
00:19:57,125 --> 00:19:58,655
Just be passionate about it.

585
00:19:58,765 --> 00:20:00,925
You know, as you know, I'm passionate

586
00:20:00,925 --> 00:20:02,275
about the University of Tennessee.

587
00:20:02,565 --> 00:20:03,635
You know, I'm passionate about it.

588
00:20:03,815 --> 00:20:04,735
I'm an alumni.

589
00:20:05,015 --> 00:20:08,114
I was a, you know, on the football team as

590
00:20:08,114 --> 00:20:11,115
a walk on, which we have a specific role.

591
00:20:11,465 --> 00:20:14,225
But I knew my role when I was a walk on.

592
00:20:14,284 --> 00:20:17,004
I knew exactly why I was there with GPA.

593
00:20:17,315 --> 00:20:18,105
I knew I wasn't going

594
00:20:18,105 --> 00:20:19,074
to hurt other players.

595
00:20:19,074 --> 00:20:19,864
I knew that I was going

596
00:20:19,864 --> 00:20:21,034
to have a clean drug test.

597
00:20:21,405 --> 00:20:22,675
I knew I was going to do all the

598
00:20:22,675 --> 00:20:24,275
right things that you're supposed to

599
00:20:24,275 --> 00:20:26,575
do, and that's one reason I stayed on

600
00:20:26,575 --> 00:20:28,015
the football team as long as I did,

601
00:20:28,025 --> 00:20:29,625
because a lot of walk ons would get cut.

602
00:20:30,165 --> 00:20:31,335
You know, you just don't have the

603
00:20:31,335 --> 00:20:33,055
right skill set to be a walk on.

604
00:20:33,345 --> 00:20:35,975
When politics, I know my role, and my

605
00:20:35,975 --> 00:20:37,894
role is, if you're passionate about

606
00:20:37,895 --> 00:20:39,295
it and want to hear about it, it

607
00:20:39,295 --> 00:20:41,474
doesn't necessarily have to agree or

608
00:20:41,474 --> 00:20:42,945
disagree, I just want to hear about it.

609
00:20:43,265 --> 00:20:44,715
Julia: I think what I'm going to

610
00:20:44,745 --> 00:20:46,435
sum this whole conversation up

611
00:20:46,455 --> 00:20:48,315
with is one servant leadership.

612
00:20:49,125 --> 00:20:50,865
I genuinely feel like that

613
00:20:50,865 --> 00:20:52,855
is your passionate thing.

614
00:20:53,075 --> 00:20:53,975
I feel it.

615
00:20:53,975 --> 00:20:54,595
I see it.

616
00:20:54,615 --> 00:20:55,804
Everybody knows it.

617
00:20:56,035 --> 00:20:57,044
Anybody that meets you

618
00:20:57,044 --> 00:20:58,154
can feel that from you.

619
00:20:58,164 --> 00:20:59,435
You definitely want to give back.

620
00:20:59,454 --> 00:21:01,095
You want to make sure everybody wins.

621
00:21:01,605 --> 00:21:04,005
Everybody gets something from the benefit.

622
00:21:04,055 --> 00:21:05,335
Everybody gets a connection.

623
00:21:05,335 --> 00:21:06,535
Everybody has something that

624
00:21:06,535 --> 00:21:08,215
they can offer and take.

625
00:21:08,485 --> 00:21:09,935
It is win win or no deal with you.

626
00:21:09,935 --> 00:21:11,025
And I love that.

627
00:21:11,325 --> 00:21:12,975
Second thing that I already forgot

628
00:21:12,995 --> 00:21:14,325
because I was super excited to talk

629
00:21:14,325 --> 00:21:15,995
about the first one because I will,

630
00:21:16,155 --> 00:21:17,274
I'll remember in a minute, but it

631
00:21:17,275 --> 00:21:18,595
was what you literally just said.

632
00:21:18,605 --> 00:21:20,384
And to sum that up is making sure

633
00:21:20,384 --> 00:21:22,385
that you have a place to belong and

634
00:21:22,505 --> 00:21:24,615
stay passionate about something.

635
00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:26,470
And I think that you bring that out

636
00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:29,010
in other people, just surround them

637
00:21:29,010 --> 00:21:30,490
with your energy and your passion.

638
00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:32,850
And you're so focused on doing what

639
00:21:32,860 --> 00:21:35,359
you need to do to grow other people.

640
00:21:35,490 --> 00:21:37,409
And as Knox will continue to grow and we

641
00:21:37,409 --> 00:21:39,430
see more and more and more construction

642
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:41,269
in the commercial real estate industry.

643
00:21:41,649 --> 00:21:43,420
We haven't, we don't have 300 cranes

644
00:21:43,420 --> 00:21:44,660
in the air, but we're getting gosh

645
00:21:44,660 --> 00:21:47,000
darn close to a few, you know, a few

646
00:21:47,070 --> 00:21:48,360
more than we've ever seen before.

647
00:21:48,730 --> 00:21:50,240
And as we can grow, your role

648
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,860
in that will be so important.

649
00:21:52,245 --> 00:21:55,334
I think one thing that I have taken away

650
00:21:55,354 --> 00:21:57,445
from just being around you in the short

651
00:21:57,445 --> 00:22:00,254
amount of time that I've known you is

652
00:22:00,254 --> 00:22:01,834
watching the way you work and network.

653
00:22:02,114 --> 00:22:03,725
I had said something to our young

654
00:22:04,014 --> 00:22:05,794
daughter over the weekend about

655
00:22:05,894 --> 00:22:07,324
connecting to the community.

656
00:22:07,624 --> 00:22:08,534
I'm part of this group.

657
00:22:09,104 --> 00:22:10,104
You've got to know this guy.

658
00:22:10,104 --> 00:22:11,424
You matter at the game.

659
00:22:11,885 --> 00:22:13,365
And I said, there's a day that this

660
00:22:13,365 --> 00:22:15,415
person is going to look to you like he

661
00:22:15,415 --> 00:22:17,445
just became super popular in Knoxville.

662
00:22:17,675 --> 00:22:19,135
Oh my gosh, he's so connected.

663
00:22:19,245 --> 00:22:20,365
He's got all these things.

664
00:22:20,565 --> 00:22:21,605
This guy's everywhere.

665
00:22:21,835 --> 00:22:24,424
And you're not going to see the 30 years

666
00:22:24,795 --> 00:22:27,724
of dedication, and passion, and work, and

667
00:22:27,724 --> 00:22:30,205
relationship, and effort, and failure,

668
00:22:30,235 --> 00:22:33,155
and success, and effort that went into

669
00:22:33,155 --> 00:22:35,165
that, what you're going to see overnight.

670
00:22:35,665 --> 00:22:37,135
John, you were to AGCS

671
00:22:37,135 --> 00:22:38,155
taking over Knoxville.

672
00:22:38,155 --> 00:22:39,865
You're just not gonna see that part.

673
00:22:40,185 --> 00:22:41,534
And you share that story with

674
00:22:41,534 --> 00:22:43,245
people and you make sure they know.

675
00:22:43,635 --> 00:22:45,375
How could, how long it has been

676
00:22:45,375 --> 00:22:47,585
of a journey for you to get here.

677
00:22:47,855 --> 00:22:50,014
What advice would you give younger

678
00:22:50,014 --> 00:22:51,725
people in Knoxville who want to start

679
00:22:51,725 --> 00:22:53,075
building those relationships today?

680
00:22:53,544 --> 00:22:54,715
John Ewart: So we're about to start

681
00:22:54,715 --> 00:22:57,324
a VFL Micro internship program.

682
00:22:57,564 --> 00:23:00,925
We've got 25 current student athletes that

683
00:23:00,925 --> 00:23:03,354
are gonna go work for 25 of our members.

684
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:05,330
And it's a three week program.

685
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,249
And this is what I will be, uh,

686
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,670
sitting on my soapbox, preaching,

687
00:23:10,670 --> 00:23:11,700
whatever you want to call it.

688
00:23:11,940 --> 00:23:14,859
Is, first off, in today's social

689
00:23:14,859 --> 00:23:17,050
media world, you know everybody.

690
00:23:17,070 --> 00:23:18,229
You're connected to everybody.

691
00:23:18,239 --> 00:23:19,919
So it used to be, who do you know?

692
00:23:20,239 --> 00:23:21,729
I don't really believe that anymore.

693
00:23:21,870 --> 00:23:23,379
I believe, based on social

694
00:23:23,380 --> 00:23:25,169
media, and LinkedIn, and uh,

695
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,000
everybody knows everybody.

696
00:23:27,439 --> 00:23:29,469
So it's, now, who's gonna extend

697
00:23:29,479 --> 00:23:32,320
goodwill to you, when you need something?

698
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:32,460
Thank you.

699
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:35,460
Because who you know really isn't going

700
00:23:35,460 --> 00:23:38,360
to get you the needle moved anymore.

701
00:23:38,510 --> 00:23:40,000
But who's going to extend goodwill when

702
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,620
you call on somebody and say, I need

703
00:23:41,629 --> 00:23:44,270
help, I need something, I need advice.

704
00:23:44,609 --> 00:23:46,230
The connectors of the world

705
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:47,899
compared to the users.

706
00:23:48,295 --> 00:23:50,005
You know, it's vast different.

707
00:23:50,025 --> 00:23:51,965
You might have 10 people in your

708
00:23:52,295 --> 00:23:54,885
world that are true connectors and

709
00:23:54,885 --> 00:23:57,085
the other hundred are users, you know?

710
00:23:57,085 --> 00:23:59,265
So you've got to build up goodwill.

711
00:23:59,304 --> 00:24:00,255
And that's where that sense

712
00:24:00,255 --> 00:24:01,405
of community comes in.

713
00:24:01,405 --> 00:24:03,294
I want everybody to know you can

714
00:24:03,304 --> 00:24:05,215
ask me for anything and I literally

715
00:24:05,215 --> 00:24:06,465
don't need anything in return.

716
00:24:06,815 --> 00:24:08,645
So you want to build up that goodwill.

717
00:24:09,125 --> 00:24:11,295
You need to find good mentors.

718
00:24:11,515 --> 00:24:14,345
Again, in today's world, who's going to

719
00:24:14,345 --> 00:24:17,215
give you the tough love, the tough advice?

720
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,360
The information you really don't

721
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:20,480
want to hear about yourself,

722
00:24:20,490 --> 00:24:21,550
but you need to hear it.

723
00:24:21,879 --> 00:24:23,449
And the people that's going

724
00:24:23,449 --> 00:24:25,370
to pray over you and love on

725
00:24:25,370 --> 00:24:27,099
you when you need it the most.

726
00:24:27,379 --> 00:24:29,939
And so to find good mentors.

727
00:24:30,524 --> 00:24:32,615
You know, one, two, three mentors

728
00:24:32,905 --> 00:24:35,355
of people that will be there for you

729
00:24:35,395 --> 00:24:38,384
to do the praying and the kicking.

730
00:24:38,434 --> 00:24:39,644
And you need, you need both.

731
00:24:39,975 --> 00:24:41,384
You need the praying and the kicking.

732
00:24:41,694 --> 00:24:44,074
And if you find mentors, and then

733
00:24:44,074 --> 00:24:45,134
the last thing we're going to

734
00:24:45,144 --> 00:24:47,094
preach to this career development

735
00:24:47,094 --> 00:24:49,394
program with these 20 is networking.

736
00:24:49,864 --> 00:24:52,985
You have got to extend your network out.

737
00:24:53,365 --> 00:24:55,335
So when you need something, your

738
00:24:55,335 --> 00:24:57,565
network can make connections for you.

739
00:24:57,565 --> 00:24:59,035
That's spiderweb effect.

740
00:24:59,465 --> 00:25:01,495
Yes, that one on one relationship's

741
00:25:01,495 --> 00:25:03,575
important, but it's more important when

742
00:25:03,575 --> 00:25:05,665
you create that one on one relationship

743
00:25:05,865 --> 00:25:08,525
that they help feather you out there

744
00:25:08,645 --> 00:25:10,945
and really help get you connected.

745
00:25:11,154 --> 00:25:12,975
And if these young people, whether in

746
00:25:12,975 --> 00:25:15,875
high school, college, post college, if

747
00:25:15,875 --> 00:25:18,165
they don't have mentors, if they don't

748
00:25:18,165 --> 00:25:20,979
have true connectors in their life, It's

749
00:25:20,979 --> 00:25:23,100
an uphill battle because you just don't

750
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:24,479
know where you're supposed to reach.

751
00:25:24,489 --> 00:25:25,779
Where's that next foothold?

752
00:25:25,789 --> 00:25:26,659
Where's that next?

753
00:25:27,169 --> 00:25:29,149
You don't have it because you don't have

754
00:25:29,149 --> 00:25:31,590
somebody that's been there guiding you.

755
00:25:31,979 --> 00:25:33,529
And so that's what I would say that,

756
00:25:33,549 --> 00:25:36,399
you know, as people get into any

757
00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:38,769
industry is if they don't have those

758
00:25:38,809 --> 00:25:41,800
people, it's hard to build them,

759
00:25:42,010 --> 00:25:43,070
you know, and you got to start off

760
00:25:43,070 --> 00:25:45,370
young and you got to be invested.

761
00:25:45,780 --> 00:25:47,420
You know, when I went and talked to

762
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:49,320
the football team, I was like, just

763
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,760
be engaged, be invested, you know, if

764
00:25:51,770 --> 00:25:52,790
you're sitting there playing on your

765
00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:54,390
phone, if you're sitting there, you

766
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:56,229
know, just half listening to this three

767
00:25:56,229 --> 00:25:57,879
week period, you're going to miss some

768
00:25:57,879 --> 00:25:59,530
of the greatest opportunities that

769
00:25:59,530 --> 00:26:01,280
could ever present themselves to you,

770
00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:03,159
because they're going to love you,

771
00:26:03,309 --> 00:26:04,820
not because of the tea on the helmet.

772
00:26:05,505 --> 00:26:07,175
But the quality of your character.

773
00:26:07,425 --> 00:26:08,915
Julia: It is, it is truly a rare

774
00:26:08,915 --> 00:26:10,635
opportunity to have a good mentor.

775
00:26:10,815 --> 00:26:12,885
My mentor passed away and I had him

776
00:26:12,885 --> 00:26:14,134
for a very short amount of time.

777
00:26:14,135 --> 00:26:16,485
It was not until very late in life

778
00:26:16,744 --> 00:26:18,494
that I found someone who I could

779
00:26:18,494 --> 00:26:20,154
really connect with and that could

780
00:26:20,154 --> 00:26:21,625
do the praying and the kicking.

781
00:26:21,654 --> 00:26:25,384
And he did both very well, very well.

782
00:26:25,385 --> 00:26:27,295
And then I learned what I was

783
00:26:27,295 --> 00:26:28,485
missing and what I needed.

784
00:26:28,685 --> 00:26:29,935
And until that light bulb came

785
00:26:29,935 --> 00:26:31,145
on, I couldn't pass that on.

786
00:26:31,485 --> 00:26:32,335
Had to fill my cup.

787
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,700
Had to learn how to fill it

788
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:34,889
properly so that everybody

789
00:26:34,889 --> 00:26:36,000
else could have the overflow.

790
00:26:36,190 --> 00:26:37,270
And until someone shows you how

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to do that, you can't do that.

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Part of it, I'm excited

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to show who you are.

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I need to share you as a person

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to the world because it is, again,

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very rare true connectors exist.

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And you are one of them.

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So I want to say thank you very

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much for taking time for us today.

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We're out of time.

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We've literally got 30 minutes

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and that was like the fastest

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interview we've done all year.

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So, everybody, I'm Julia Hurley.

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This was our guest John Ewart with AGC.

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Please look it up.

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Please like it.

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Connect with him on LinkedIn.

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You can find him

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everywhere on social media.

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And if you would like to be part

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of his program in 2025, go ahead

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and send him a message because I

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believe you're booked out for 2024.

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Correct?

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John Ewart: We have been blessed.

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Membership growth has been incredible.

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Julia: Wonderful.

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Everybody, thank you so much for tuning

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in to this episode of Connect the Knox.

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I'm your host, Julia Hurley,

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Connecting Knoxville.

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To the nation.

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Until next time.

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for tuning into the show.

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Make sure to like and subscribe.

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Leave a five star review on

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your podcast player of choice.

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And if you would like information

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on moving to Knoxville,

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send me a private message.

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As always, this is Julia Hurley

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connecting Knoxville to the nation.