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Julia: Hey everybody, welcome to
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another episode of Connect the Knox.
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I'm Julia Hurley, your host,
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connecting Knoxville to the nation.
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Today's guest is John Ewert.
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He is the Knoxville Chapter President
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in all things, honestly, he could
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probably run the whole country if
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we would just let him do it, of AGC,
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Knoxville Chapter, and one of the
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best volunteers you will ever meet.
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It is very important that everybody
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moving here gets to know John, because
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he houses one of the most prolific
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groups of people you will ever meet.
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Please introduce yourself to the nation
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and start from the beginning, how you
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ended up here in Knoxville and how you
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got to AGC and then tell us what it is.
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John Ewart: Well, thank
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you so much for having me.
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I truly do appreciate it.
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My stories.
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Pretty simple, uh, come from a small
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town, Fayetteville, Tennessee, uh, 1991,
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uh, United States goes into war with the
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Persian Gulf area, enlisted in the United
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States Navy, had a four year career in
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the Navy, that was absolutely incredible,
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got a chance to be stationed in Pearl
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Harbor, Hawaii, got a chance to go to
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the Persian Gulf, Somalia, Cairo, Egypt,
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just had an amazing four year career.
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During that time, I decided I
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wanted to go play football at the
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University of Tennessee as a walk on.
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Got over to UT in 96, graduated in 99.
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And what an incredible two year
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journey from 1997 and 1998.
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Playing on the, uh, 97 SEC
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Championship team with Peyton Manning.
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Playing on the 1998 National
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Championship team with a host
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of Vols, Al Wilson, Jamal Lewis.
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And, uh, uh, just a host of others.
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From there, uh, started
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my business career.
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Got a chance to work four years
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at Gettysview Country Club.
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That was absolutely incredible.
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Incredible opportunity to network,
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meet a lot of people moving to the
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Knoxville area during that time.
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From there, I went to St.
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Mary's Healthcare.
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Got a chance to run a health and fitness
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center, uh, off the Emory Road exit.
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I got a chance to run a daycare,
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do director of marketing and, uh,
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facilities manager, uh, COO for
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the hospital after 13 years there.
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Uh, a GC hired me six years
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ago to run this market.
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Running the construction community
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is absolutely incredible.
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There's so many amazing people
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in Knoxville to connect with.
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Julia: So what does a GC stand for, john?
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John Ewart: Associated
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General contractors.
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So, we are a nationwide organization.
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The headquarters of AGC is on Capitol
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Hill, literally on Capitol Hill.
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They, of course, want favorable
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outcomes in legislation, so construction
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continue to happen and grow.
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Obviously, the infrastructure of
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America as a whole is very old.
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Between roads and bridges and
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dams and everything in between.
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And then, of course, in the Knoxville
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market, we really are looking at
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your vertical GCE individuals.
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The people that are building the
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large buildings, Smith Wesson, Neyland
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Stadium, College of Nursing on campus.
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So that's really who we serve
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here in the Knoxville market.
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Julia: So it's a pretty
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big market to think about.
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Uh, anybody that can get a collegiate
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contract usually has a national
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contract for large construction.
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It's not something that's
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really easy to understand.
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It's not something
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that's easy to get into.
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It takes years to develop the
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relationships to pull contracts like that.
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You need subcontractors, you need all
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kinds of different vendors, and you
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manage relationships with all of those.
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Uh, what does that membership look like?
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What is it made up of?
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John Ewart: So right now we have roughly
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200 members here in the Knoxville Market.
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Everything from the largest GCs,
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you've got subcontractors, you've got
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suppliers, you have service providers.
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And the way I look at it, it is,
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what does our community look like?
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And we want to be a makeup of all
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of those levels in our community.
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So a lot of people look at this and just
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say, well, you're just construction.
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We are not just construction.
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You have financial investors here,
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you've got real estate, You have
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Insurance, but then you have all the
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large subs, you've got all the large
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GCs, but ultimately the Knoxville
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market is built around a community.
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And I think that's where we have
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had so many levels of success here,
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is because we are community driven,
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uh, which includes construction.
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Construction
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Julia: industry as a whole, especially
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in the East Tennessee market right
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now, especially in East Tennessee,
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we, national blew up, right?
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And it's just absolutely, you can't find
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space, yet they continue to find space.
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And they're coming this way, and there's
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more and more opportunity every day.
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But as you said, construction's
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not just put on the hard
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hat and go build something.
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Construction is Supply.
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Construction is employment.
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Construction is management.
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Construction is healthcare.
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Construction is base.
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What?
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There are so many different facets to
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the word construction and especially
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the major amounts of construction
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industries that you were helping manage.
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What converse, what are conversations
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like with all of those people in one room?
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Like what is the benefit here?
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John Ewart: So the biggest thing
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that you look at when we talk about
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construction is you've got two major
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things that you've got obstacles with.
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The first one's going to be
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Employment, um, Workforce Development.
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Second one's going to be Supply Chain.
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So, with AGC, one of the greatest benefits
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that we offer Knox County, not only
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the school system, but the employers,
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is we have an Apprenticeship Program.
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This Apprenticeship Program is
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Electricians, Carpenters, and Masons.
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This year was our largest group of
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students we've had with 270 students
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starting the 2023 school year.
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It's a four year program
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through the Department of Labor.
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After four years in this program,
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you get your journeyman's license
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and workforce development in every
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industry is vital to the growth and
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continuing education, uh, for employers.
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Julia: Now, what's a journeyman?
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John Ewart: A journeyman is, uh, basically
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when you get your real estate license.
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You have to go through class, you've
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got to go through the seminars,
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you've got to go through all the
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process to receive your license.
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Well, a journeyman is a four year degree
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as an electrician or as a carpenter.
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So you go four years to school, you
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do all the testing, you get all the
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apprenticeship hours, which you have
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to have 2, 000 work hours a year,
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so basically a full time employee.
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And after you test out after four
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years, you are, you are a licensed
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electrician or a licensed carpenter
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that can practice throughout the U.
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S.
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Julia: I have friends of mine that
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own large scale businesses, like
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the ones that belong to AT& T.
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And we are told constantly that that is
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a dying industry, that there are just not
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enough people that, one, are interested
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in it or understand why it's valuable.
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I do want to go through that long of a
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process to Gain that type of knowledge,
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yet it is one of the most sought after.
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Claymore, why that's relevant and what you
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all are doing to partner with like Key,
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Rhode State, uh, Walter State, and, and
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how you're providing that to industry.
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John Ewart: So from what I understand,
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the latest study that I saw when we had
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an apprenticeship roundtable with Knox
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County is it's about a five to one loss.
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We're losing five people for
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every one entering in, in these,
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uh, journeyman type positions.
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So for us, it comes down to education.
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People just don't realize a starting wage
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for a lot of these 18, 19, 20 year old
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individuals could be 15 plus an hour.
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Now a lot of places are paying 15 plus an
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hour just to, you know, survive business.
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But once you enter as your journeyman
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after four years, you can make 25, 30,
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35 an hour with that four year degree.
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A lot of the college degrees that
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people are receiving right now on
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different campuses can't pay that much.
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I know I didn't make that coming out.
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No, I came out of college
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25 plus years ago.
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But we really want to, through the
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865 Academy here in Knox County,
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with Builders Exchange, with other
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entities, we really want that.
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education piece to say if you're not ready
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for a four year degree at post, post high
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school, if you want a job opportunity
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where you're hired, you're employed,
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and you're still doing education, uh,
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becoming an electrician, carpenter,
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mason is an incredible way to go.
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Of course, my way, as soon as I've left
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high school, I'm straight into boot camp.
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You know, I'm four years military.
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Then I go back to college
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and get my degree.
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I think the value of degrees
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right now with the cost of them,
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you can join the apprenticeship
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program and a four year program.
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I did a study for Knox County
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last week and our average student
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after four years graduating will
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pay less than 1, 500 in tuition.
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So again, we want to provide
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that value back to our members.
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Because they employ individuals, they send
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them to our school, but it's also a great
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value for each of those students who isn't
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getting in a lifetime of debt to get a
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four year, you know, journeyman's license.
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Julia: I know that there's
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a show, uh, does something
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called the Man Show every year.
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And the IEBW, am I saying that properly?
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The local IEBW is always there.
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Really and truly, every person walks
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through the door, they're like, Please
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go and get your electrician's license.
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Please, we need more electricians.
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Please help us.
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We need this.
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This is a need that is being talked
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about more and more and more.
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How do you see this program bringing
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these kids into this faster to be able
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to that 5 to 1 ratio is a big loss.
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Like, how are we How can we work as a, as
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a community to bring more of that to you?
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John Ewart: I think with Knox
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County School System starting the
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865 Academy, getting their juniors
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and seniors exposed into different
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trades and different styles of work.
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I think a lot of times it's people,
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you know, have grown up and they
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haven't had to work with their hands.
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Uh, they haven't had to do manual
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labor, yet when they get into the, uh,
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workforce, I mean, that's the majority
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of the jobs that's going to be out there.
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And then the second thing is
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you've got to educate them on pay.
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The hourly wage for a journeyman or
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the hourly wage for an apprentice.
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is going to be greater than
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a lot of the other jobs that
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they're going to be seeking.
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And the on the job
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training is so important.
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That's why being an apprentice and having
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a mentor and having somebody who is
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guiding you along the way is so important.
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But I just don't think in today's Twitter
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universe, you know, everything is built
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on social media and clicks and likes.
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I think a lot of people just miss it.
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This is a great area to go into
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business And you can start your
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own business after four years.
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It's incredible.
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Julia: AGC, you said there's 200
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members in just the Knoxville chapter?
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John Ewart: Correct.
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Julia: I know that we've met, I've met a
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few, um, the new female CEO, which is huge
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of, and I'm going to mess it up, OYSK3.
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John Ewart: Kara, she's incredible.
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Julia: They're doing the
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blueprints for Neyland Stadium.
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They're a, they're a massive
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blueprint company, right?
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That's, that is a skill that takes
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years of practice to be part, and that's
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just one portion of what it takes to
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put together construction as a, the
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word construction means so much more.
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What are some of the pieces?
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Like, you have the women in construction.
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Tell us about that offshoot
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of the AGC specifically.
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John Ewart: So, I had a conversation with
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my, at that time, 15 year old daughter.
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And she was telling me all of this
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stuff that she is growing up learning,
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saying how women are at a disadvantage
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in the workforce, whether it's through
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pay, whether it's through promotions,
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whether it's through opportunities.
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growing up believing that.
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If it's true or not,
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again, I, I don't know.
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But that's what she already at
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15 believes is she is already
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taking a backseat to a man.
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So two years ago, I created this
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women and constructed show Megan that
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at, you create your own self worth.
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If somebody doesn't offer you what
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you're worth, don't accept the job.
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If you don't like the environment
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of a workplace, create your own.
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Create your own.
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We got capital.
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We can, we can do something.
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You know, again, you gotta be creative
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and you gotta have your own standards.
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So, um, I wanted to show my daughter
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powerful women at any level of
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business, whether you're the admin
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assistant or the CEO president.
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Women create so much value.
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The buying power for women, the
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decision making ability, the
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ability to create companies, and the
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ability to mentor other young women.
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So we created Women in Construction in
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early 2023, and our goal for 2023 was
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to average about 25 people at events.
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2023, we averaged 87 people,
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87 women, at these events.
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So, this year, 2024, every six weeks,
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we are hosting a free Lunch Learn.
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Uh, we've got some incredible
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speakers coming in.
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And, again, it was a way to show my
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daughter, who is now 16, what decision
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making, what leadership, what mentoring,
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but the buying power that women really do.
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Run the world.
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It is true.
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You know, you just have to seek it out.
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And I want, and I wanted
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to show that to people.
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Julia: We all know that real estate
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is location, location, location.
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Our team at Just Homes Group
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Realty Executives has the true
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expertise pairing buyers and sellers
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with the right opportunities.
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Whether you're looking to buy or
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sell a home right here in Knoxville,
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Lenore City, Clinton, or Farragut.
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We have the expertise throughout
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every Knoxville surrounding area.
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Call Just Homes Group
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Realty Executives today.
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We have all girls as well,
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three girls in our home as well.
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And as a female business owner who is
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constantly prejudiced, towing that line
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of, I know what people say and I know
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exactly what you just said is true.
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And both of those things have got to find,
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The middle ground, there's always some,
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you can turn on social media, no matter
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what social media it is, and find 500
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negative things and find the one positive
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thing, you have to find it, you have to
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look for it, you have to want to be part
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of it, you have to create it, and you have
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to work at it, and Reiterating that on a
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consistent basis to our children, because
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that's the next generation of leadership.
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We're, I mean, that's another 20
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years and I'm out of the game, right?
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I'll be, well, I mean, hopefully
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not, but I mean, 20 years,
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technically I should be out of this
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game and those kids are, are it.
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That's the next conversation.
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And if they're already going into
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the conversation saying I can't do
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something, there's a good chance that
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they won't even try something to at
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least show that if you try and make
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this initiative, people will respond.
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You've had eight, seven women per meeting.
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in attendance and you're on waiting
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lists for some of these things.
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John Ewart: Yes, we've got, we've
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got some incredible, we had Karen
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Weakley come out and speak, the head
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coach of the Lady Ball Softball.
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We've got Claudia with Centro
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Hispano coming out to talk about
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the Hispanic speaking community.
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Our next one is Dana Hart, the CEO of
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the Women's Basketball Hall of Fame.
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You know, we just had the WNBA draft
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last night, which was celebrated.
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Uh, the Women's Hall of Fame has
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their induction ceremony next week.
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And then she's coming to talk to our
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women's event, uh, women's group about
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why it's so important to have the
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Women's Hall of Fame here in Knoxville.
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Why is it here?
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Who does it serve?
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The empowerment of women, and our
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women's group was just a perfect
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connector for our next speaker.
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Julia: My doubles tennis
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partner's parents.
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Um, her brother, we were all at their
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beach house for vacation one spring
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break, and her brother had said something.
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He was a, he was a huge baseball player.
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He was being recruited.
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And, uh, he said, well, what if
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something happened to me and all
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I could be was a ditch digger?
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And I remember, I mean,
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it wasn't even a thought.
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It came right out of his mom's mouth.
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And she said, well, you better be the best
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damn ditch digger this world's ever seen.
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Because if you're not going to be the
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best at your position, don't do it at all.
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And that applies to everybody.
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That applies to the person who has
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to order the pencils, because if you
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order the bad pencils, then nobody can
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do the drawings, and then the drawings
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don't get to be where they need to be.
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It doesn't matter what your
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position is, creating your value,
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creating that opportunity for value
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is important, and you're getting
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that in one place for people.
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Tell us about how, what, why
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is that so heavy on your heart?
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Like, what is this, you're very passionate
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about it, you're really bringing it.
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John Ewart: I think, so, Going to St.
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Mary's, which is now, it's
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called Tenova Healthcare, but
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when I started, the Sisters of
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Mercy taught me a couple things.
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I was 32, just taking over the
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Health and Fitness Center, had
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150 employees, had 6, 000 members.
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And, you know, they really preach
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being a servant leader, you know, as
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we are here to serve the community.
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But we're also here for business, and
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one of the greatest business quotes
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that I've heard from the sisters is you
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can't feed the poor if you are the poor.
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And to truly be a servant leader is yes,
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you've got to have business principles
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and business practices, and you do
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have to watch out for your bottom line.
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But at the end of the day, once
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you get your bottom line right,
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it's time to serve your community.
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And, uh, that's really, before
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then I hadn't really been part,
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you know, Gettysburg Country Club.
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I was working with lots of business
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leaders, a lot of decision makers.
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And, you know, we were bringing
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people in and we were networking
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and doing a great job.
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But when I got to St.
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Mary's and working for the Sisters of
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Mercy, it just changed my perspective on
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what, you know, My personal outlook on
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life was going to be, and instead of just
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chasing revenue, I was chasing quality.
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And not just chasing quality,
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but trying to serve a community,
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and it just continues to
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translate into what I do today.
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Julia: You're constantly working
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on your ability to connect people.
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You always make the connection.
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And that is something that's super rare
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and super relevant because connectors
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are few and far between when you really
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can just speak with someone and get
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their vibe and be like, I know somebody
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you need to know and know who they are.
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They'll take your call.
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You've built that relationship.
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You have that ability and you
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are using that to empower all the
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people in the Knoxville market.
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Tell us about.
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What you're doing, maybe like in D.
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C.
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or Nashville, because you
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have to be part of all of it.
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You're national.
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You're just, you're a part of that.
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John Ewart: Well, with legislation,
547
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I really do sit on the sidelines
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for the legislation part.
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We've got a CEO out of Nashville.
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We go to Nashville once a year at
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an event called Day on the Hill, and
552
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we go meet with local legislators.
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And that's great to get a chance
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to connect with our decision
555
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makers in Nashville, extremely
556
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important in all of that.
557
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But I really do sit on the sidelines
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because there's so many varying
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opinions on the way the world
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should work and the way the U.
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S.
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should work and the way the
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state of Tennessee should work.
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It's really hard for me to
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be on one side or the other.
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So I really just, really do remove
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myself from that aspect because
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Everybody's passionate about it, and
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nobody's opinion is necessarily wrong.
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There's just different
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ways of getting there.
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So, um, in that aspect, now that's
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one thing I've done really well since
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my time in the military, is when
575
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people say, don't talk politics at
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dinner, I don't talk politics ever.
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I really don't.
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I really just tell people, be passionate
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about, I, I, I don't like indifference.
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Like, be passionate one way or
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the other, whether it Agrees with
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the majority or the minority.
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It really doesn't matter.
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Just be passionate about it.
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You know, as you know, I'm passionate
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about the University of Tennessee.
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You know, I'm passionate about it.
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I'm an alumni.
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I was a, you know, on the football team as
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a walk on, which we have a specific role.
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But I knew my role when I was a walk on.
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I knew exactly why I was there with GPA.
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I knew I wasn't going
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to hurt other players.
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I knew that I was going
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to have a clean drug test.
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I knew I was going to do all the
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right things that you're supposed to
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do, and that's one reason I stayed on
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the football team as long as I did,
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because a lot of walk ons would get cut.
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You know, you just don't have the
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right skill set to be a walk on.
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When politics, I know my role, and my
605
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role is, if you're passionate about
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it and want to hear about it, it
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doesn't necessarily have to agree or
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disagree, I just want to hear about it.
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Julia: I think what I'm going to
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sum this whole conversation up
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with is one servant leadership.
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I genuinely feel like that
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is your passionate thing.
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I feel it.
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I see it.
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Everybody knows it.
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Anybody that meets you
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can feel that from you.
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You definitely want to give back.
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You want to make sure everybody wins.
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Everybody gets something from the benefit.
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Everybody gets a connection.
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Everybody has something that
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they can offer and take.
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It is win win or no deal with you.
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And I love that.
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Second thing that I already forgot
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because I was super excited to talk
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about the first one because I will,
630
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I'll remember in a minute, but it
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was what you literally just said.
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And to sum that up is making sure
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that you have a place to belong and
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stay passionate about something.
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And I think that you bring that out
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in other people, just surround them
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with your energy and your passion.
638
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And you're so focused on doing what
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you need to do to grow other people.
640
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And as Knox will continue to grow and we
641
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see more and more and more construction
642
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in the commercial real estate industry.
643
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We haven't, we don't have 300 cranes
644
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in the air, but we're getting gosh
645
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darn close to a few, you know, a few
646
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more than we've ever seen before.
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And as we can grow, your role
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in that will be so important.
649
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I think one thing that I have taken away
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from just being around you in the short
651
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amount of time that I've known you is
652
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watching the way you work and network.
653
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I had said something to our young
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daughter over the weekend about
655
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connecting to the community.
656
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I'm part of this group.
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You've got to know this guy.
658
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You matter at the game.
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And I said, there's a day that this
660
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person is going to look to you like he
661
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just became super popular in Knoxville.
662
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Oh my gosh, he's so connected.
663
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He's got all these things.
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This guy's everywhere.
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And you're not going to see the 30 years
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of dedication, and passion, and work, and
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relationship, and effort, and failure,
668
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and success, and effort that went into
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that, what you're going to see overnight.
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John, you were to AGCS
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taking over Knoxville.
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You're just not gonna see that part.
673
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And you share that story with
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people and you make sure they know.
675
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How could, how long it has been
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of a journey for you to get here.
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What advice would you give younger
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people in Knoxville who want to start
679
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building those relationships today?
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John Ewart: So we're about to start
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a VFL Micro internship program.
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We've got 25 current student athletes that
683
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are gonna go work for 25 of our members.
684
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And it's a three week program.
685
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And this is what I will be, uh,
686
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sitting on my soapbox, preaching,
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whatever you want to call it.
688
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Is, first off, in today's social
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media world, you know everybody.
690
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You're connected to everybody.
691
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So it used to be, who do you know?
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I don't really believe that anymore.
693
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I believe, based on social
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media, and LinkedIn, and uh,
695
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everybody knows everybody.
696
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So it's, now, who's gonna extend
697
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goodwill to you, when you need something?
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Thank you.
699
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Because who you know really isn't going
700
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to get you the needle moved anymore.
701
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But who's going to extend goodwill when
702
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you call on somebody and say, I need
703
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help, I need something, I need advice.
704
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The connectors of the world
705
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compared to the users.
706
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You know, it's vast different.
707
00:23:50,025 --> 00:23:51,965
You might have 10 people in your
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00:23:52,295 --> 00:23:54,885
world that are true connectors and
709
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the other hundred are users, you know?
710
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So you've got to build up goodwill.
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And that's where that sense
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of community comes in.
713
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I want everybody to know you can
714
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ask me for anything and I literally
715
00:24:05,215 --> 00:24:06,465
don't need anything in return.
716
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So you want to build up that goodwill.
717
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You need to find good mentors.
718
00:24:11,515 --> 00:24:14,345
Again, in today's world, who's going to
719
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give you the tough love, the tough advice?
720
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,360
The information you really don't
721
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:20,480
want to hear about yourself,
722
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but you need to hear it.
723
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And the people that's going
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to pray over you and love on
725
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you when you need it the most.
726
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And so to find good mentors.
727
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You know, one, two, three mentors
728
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of people that will be there for you
729
00:24:35,395 --> 00:24:38,384
to do the praying and the kicking.
730
00:24:38,434 --> 00:24:39,644
And you need, you need both.
731
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You need the praying and the kicking.
732
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And if you find mentors, and then
733
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the last thing we're going to
734
00:24:45,144 --> 00:24:47,094
preach to this career development
735
00:24:47,094 --> 00:24:49,394
program with these 20 is networking.
736
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You have got to extend your network out.
737
00:24:53,365 --> 00:24:55,335
So when you need something, your
738
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network can make connections for you.
739
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That's spiderweb effect.
740
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Yes, that one on one relationship's
741
00:25:01,495 --> 00:25:03,575
important, but it's more important when
742
00:25:03,575 --> 00:25:05,665
you create that one on one relationship
743
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that they help feather you out there
744
00:25:08,645 --> 00:25:10,945
and really help get you connected.
745
00:25:11,154 --> 00:25:12,975
And if these young people, whether in
746
00:25:12,975 --> 00:25:15,875
high school, college, post college, if
747
00:25:15,875 --> 00:25:18,165
they don't have mentors, if they don't
748
00:25:18,165 --> 00:25:20,979
have true connectors in their life, It's
749
00:25:20,979 --> 00:25:23,100
an uphill battle because you just don't
750
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:24,479
know where you're supposed to reach.
751
00:25:24,489 --> 00:25:25,779
Where's that next foothold?
752
00:25:25,789 --> 00:25:26,659
Where's that next?
753
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You don't have it because you don't have
754
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somebody that's been there guiding you.
755
00:25:31,979 --> 00:25:33,529
And so that's what I would say that,
756
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you know, as people get into any
757
00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:38,769
industry is if they don't have those
758
00:25:38,809 --> 00:25:41,800
people, it's hard to build them,
759
00:25:42,010 --> 00:25:43,070
you know, and you got to start off
760
00:25:43,070 --> 00:25:45,370
young and you got to be invested.
761
00:25:45,780 --> 00:25:47,420
You know, when I went and talked to
762
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the football team, I was like, just
763
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be engaged, be invested, you know, if
764
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you're sitting there playing on your
765
00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:54,390
phone, if you're sitting there, you
766
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know, just half listening to this three
767
00:25:56,229 --> 00:25:57,879
week period, you're going to miss some
768
00:25:57,879 --> 00:25:59,530
of the greatest opportunities that
769
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could ever present themselves to you,
770
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because they're going to love you,
771
00:26:03,309 --> 00:26:04,820
not because of the tea on the helmet.
772
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But the quality of your character.
773
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Julia: It is, it is truly a rare
774
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opportunity to have a good mentor.
775
00:26:10,815 --> 00:26:12,885
My mentor passed away and I had him
776
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for a very short amount of time.
777
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It was not until very late in life
778
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that I found someone who I could
779
00:26:18,494 --> 00:26:20,154
really connect with and that could
780
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do the praying and the kicking.
781
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And he did both very well, very well.
782
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And then I learned what I was
783
00:26:27,295 --> 00:26:28,485
missing and what I needed.
784
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And until that light bulb came
785
00:26:29,935 --> 00:26:31,145
on, I couldn't pass that on.
786
00:26:31,485 --> 00:26:32,335
Had to fill my cup.
787
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,700
Had to learn how to fill it
788
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properly so that everybody
789
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else could have the overflow.
790
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And until someone shows you how
791
00:26:37,270 --> 00:26:39,010
to do that, you can't do that.
792
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Part of it, I'm excited
793
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to show who you are.
794
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I need to share you as a person
795
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to the world because it is, again,
796
00:26:45,530 --> 00:26:47,690
very rare true connectors exist.
797
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And you are one of them.
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So I want to say thank you very
799
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much for taking time for us today.
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We're out of time.
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We've literally got 30 minutes
802
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and that was like the fastest
803
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:56,710
interview we've done all year.
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So, everybody, I'm Julia Hurley.
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This was our guest John Ewart with AGC.
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Please look it up.
807
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,410
Please like it.
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00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:04,750
Connect with him on LinkedIn.
809
00:27:04,750 --> 00:27:05,299
You can find him
810
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:06,609
everywhere on social media.
811
00:27:06,849 --> 00:27:08,000
And if you would like to be part
812
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,720
of his program in 2025, go ahead
813
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,930
and send him a message because I
814
00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:13,680
believe you're booked out for 2024.
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00:27:13,690 --> 00:27:14,140
Correct?
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John Ewart: We have been blessed.
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Membership growth has been incredible.
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Julia: Wonderful.
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Everybody, thank you so much for tuning
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in to this episode of Connect the Knox.
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I'm your host, Julia Hurley,
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Connecting Knoxville.
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To the nation.
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Until next time.
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for tuning into the show.
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Make sure to like and subscribe.
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Leave a five star review on
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your podcast player of choice.
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And if you would like information
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on moving to Knoxville,
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send me a private message.
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As always, this is Julia Hurley
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connecting Knoxville to the nation.